BoxRec Boxing Hall of Fame, Round 3 ballots - CLOSED

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 15:50

This officially opens balloting for Round 3 of the BoxRec Boxing Hall of Fame. Submit your ballots here. Voting will be open until May 25.

Candidate Eligibility
Any fighter that has been retired for at least ten years is eligible. For example, in 2006, we can elect anyone who's last fight occured in 1995 or before. Use their record on the BoxRec database to confirm the date of their last fight.

Assembling a Ballot
Voters are instructed to consider all eligible candidates for each ballot. Fighters should be considered based on their performance and accomplishments in the ring.

Do not rank the fighters in order, please just list them alphabetically. No one gets any extra points for being ranked higher than another, we are simply counting how many total ballots each fighter is named on.

Voters should list the 25 fighters most deserving of election. If a voter feels there are fewer than 25 candidates deserving of election, then he (or she) may list as many as he feels are deserving.

All legal ballots will be tabulated at the end of the voting each month. Candidates who are named on 75% or more of the ballots will be inducted into the Hall that month. If there are number of ballots submitted for which there is no whole number representing 75%, the closest number of ballots to 75% without going over will be considered worthy of induction (for example, in the April election, 11 ballots were submitted. 9 votes would represent 82%, and 8 would represent 73%, therefore 8 ballots were the minimum requirement for induction in that election).

The "official" Hall of Fame thread:

http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38875

Ballots can be submitted any time until May 25, 2006. All ballots become final at 12 midnight EST on the 25th. Feel free to revise and edit posted ballots until then.

Fighters already enshrined in the BoxRec Forum Boxing Hall of Fame:

Muhammad Ali
Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Ezzard Charles
Jack Dempsey
Robert Fitzsimmons
Joe Gans
Harry Greb
Marvin Hagler
Jack Johnson
Eder Jofre
Stanley Ketchell
Sam Langford
Benny Leonard
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Carlos Monzon
Archie Moore
Willie Pep
Sugar Ray Robinson
Barney Ross
Sandy Saddler
Mickey Walker
Jimmy Wilde

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 15:58

My ballot (in alphabetical order):

Panama Al Brown
Tony Canzoneri
Billy Conn
Jim Corbett
Nonpariel Jack Dempsey
George Dixon
Bob Foster
Wilfredo Gomez
Emile Griffith
Beau Jack
Jim Jeffries
Terry McGovern
Jose Napoles
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Ortiz
Pascual Perez
Aaron Pryor
Salvador Sanchez
Michael Spinks
John L. Sullivan
Gene Tunney
Barbados Joe Walcott
Ike Williams
Carlos Zarate

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:11

LOU AMBERS
JIMMY BARRY
PANAMA AL BROWN
MARCEL CERDAN
ANTONIO CERVANTES
YOUNG CORBETT III
LES DARCY
JIM DRISCOLL
BOB FOSTER
KHAOSAI GALAXY
TOMMY GIBBONS
WILFREDO GOMEZ
JAMES J JEFFRIES
KID McCOY
PACKEY McFARLAND
TERRY McGOVERN
JIMMY McLARNIN
JOSE NAPOLES
PHILADELPHIA JACK O'BRIEN
CARLOS ORTIZ
PASCUAL PEREZ
TOMMY RYAN
GENE TUNNEY
PANCHO VILLA
CARLOS ZARATE

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:16

Sorry Kid Lefty. Scratch YOUNG CORBETT III from my list and replace him with SALVADOR SANCHEZ. For some reason I thought Sanchez was already in.

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:22

That's fine seamus - everyone's encouraged to really consider their ballots and make whatever changes you want until May 25. I'm not going to count a single ballot until then (probably not even my own).

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:26

Hello kidlefty:

These are my 25 inductees for April 25th, even though is kind of late:

Carmen Basilio
Joe Brown
Panama Al Brown
Tony Canzoneri
Kid Chocolate
Bob Foster
Kid Gavilan
Wilfredo Gomez
Emile Griffith
Sugar Ray Leonard
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Terry McGovern
Freddie Miller
Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles
Ruben Olivares
Manuel Ortiz
Carlos Ortiz
Pascual Perez
Aaron Pryor
Salvador Sanchez
Michael Spinks
Dick Tiger
Gene Tunney
Joe Walcott
Ike Williams

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:26

Anyone know how we can get the Round 2 thread "unstickied" and get this one stuck? I'm guessing a moderator would have to do it.

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:28

elmersalsa wrote:Hello kidlefty:

These are my 25 inductees for April 25th, even though is kind of late:

Sugar Ray Leonard
Joe Walcott

Leonard isn't eligible yet (10 year rule), and do you mean Barbados Joe or Jersey Joe?

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:29

kidlefty wrote: Leonard isn't eligible yet (10 year rule), and do you mean Barbados Joe or Jersey Joe?

Just a note, anyone voting for a Joe Walcott, please specify which one. Thanks!

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:38

Carmen Basilio
Wilfred Benitez
Tony Canzoneri
George Charpentier
Billy Conn
Jim Corbett
Tiger Flowers
Joe Frazier
Gene Fullmer
Kid Gavilan
Tommy Gibbons
Wifredo Gomez
Jim Jeffries
Tommy Loughran
Jose Angel Napoles
Kid Norfolk
Philadephia Jack O'Brien
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Salvador Sanchez
Max Schmeling
Michael Spinks
Gene Tunney
Harry Wills
Carlos Zarate

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:47

pundit wrote: I suppose Larry Holmes and Sugar Ray Leonard are not yet eligible, although their primes are some 20 years back.

Correct. What I see us doing eventually is amending the rule to also allow in anyone who's career began, say, 20 years ago or more. There would be a flood of new names on the ballots, which will be exciting. Right now I figure there's enough people worth voting for without that, so we should leave it as is for a while.

Borinken25 · Post by **Borinken25** » 27 Apr 2006, 16:58

Aaron Pryor
Antonio Cervantez
Barbados Joe Walcott
Billy Conn
Bob Foster
Carlos Ortiz
Carmen Basilio
Cocoa Kid
Gene Tunney
Jersey Joe Walcott
Jim Corbet
John L. Sullivan
Jose Napoles
Jose Torres
Kid Chocolate
Kid Gavilan
Manuel Ortiz
Michael Spinks
Panama Al Brown
Pascual Perez
Ruben Olivares
Salvador Sanchez
Terry McGovern
Wilfredo Benitez
Wilfredo Gomez

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 27 Apr 2006, 20:24

Carmen Basilio
Jimmy Barry
Charley Burley
Tony Canzoneri
Jim Corbett
Billy Conn
Tiger Flowers
Bob Foster
Joe Frazier
Wilfredo Gomez
Beau Jack
Jim Jeffries
Packey Mcfarland
Terry Mcggovern
Jimmy MCclarnin
Bob Montgomery
Jose Napoles
Jack Obrien
Ruben Olivares
Salvador Sanchez
Gene Tunney
Pancho Villa
Ike Williams
Carlos Zarate
Fritzie Zivic

adspath · Post by **adspath** » 27 Apr 2006, 20:29

Kid Gavilan and Floyd Patterson is a good decision

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 28 Apr 2006, 09:47

I wonder why George Carpentier doesn't get votes.

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 28 Apr 2006, 19:45

pundit wrote:I wonder why George Carpentier doesn't get votes.

It's a little early. Give it a few more rounds and I'm sure he'll begin showing up on more ballots.

BTW, I just posted an announcement for this in the Current Scene forum. Hopefully that'll bring in some more ballots.

vagabundo55 · Post by **vagabundo55** » 28 Apr 2006, 22:28

Carmen Basilio
Wilfredo Benitez
Joe Brown
Panama Al Brown
Antonio Cervantes
Jim Corbett
Joe Frazier
Gene Fullmer
Wilfredo Gomez
Emile Griffith
Fighting Harada
Jake LaMotta
Sonny Liston
Ray Mancini
Jose Napoles
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Ortiz
Aaron Pryor
Salvador Sanchez
Max Schmeling
John Sullivan
Gene Tunney
Pancho Villa
Jersey Joe Walcott
Carlos Zarate

Things are going to get more interesting after this month's ballot. Keep up the good work Lefty!!

Borinken25 · Post by **Borinken25** » 28 Apr 2006, 22:40

I just advertise this thread in Boxeo Mundial hopefully this time we have more people voting for their favorite fighters. Great job Kidlefty and thanks for the opportunity for us to vote for our favorite fighters

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 28 Apr 2006, 22:43

Yep thanks for doing this. I agree also that its gonna get more and more interesting as the rounds go on.

JAHamilton77 · Post by **JAHamilton77** » 29 Apr 2006, 02:11

Carmen Basilio
Wilfredo Benitez
Kid Chocolate
Curtis Cokes
Billy Conn
Bob Foster
Joe Frazier
Gene Fullmer
Kid Gavilan
Emile Griffith
Fighting Harada
Joey Maxim
Jose Napoles
Carl "bobo" Olsen
Carlos Ortiz
Floyd Patterson
Aaron Pryor
Sugar Ramos
Salvador Sanchez
Micheal Spinks
Dick Tiger
Gene Tunney
Rodrigo Valdez
Ike Williams
Carlos Zarate

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 29 Apr 2006, 06:29

Jake Lamotta
Joe Frazier

JCS · Post by **JCS** » 29 Apr 2006, 11:48

Wow, being able to vote in a million people is monotonous.

Salvador Sanchez
Jake LaMotta
Joe Frazier
Carmen Basilioi
Bob Foster
Tony Canzoneri
Ike Williams
Wilfredo Gomez

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 29 Apr 2006, 12:55

Mattyp151 wrote:Jake Lamotta
Joe Frazier

jcs83md wrote:Wow, being able to vote in a million people is monotonous.

Salvador Sanchez
Jake LaMotta
Joe Frazier
Carmen Basilioi
Bob Foster
Tony Canzoneri
Ike Williams
Wilfredo Gomez

Actually, the ballot is 25 max. Someone has to be on 75% of the ballots to get in, so I don't see more than 7 or 8 at the very most making it this round.

I have no problem with people submitting shorter ballots if they really feel like no one else is worthy of induction, but excessively short ones are a little more suspect. I can't assume that a ballot with just two names is not an official entry. jcs, you're a little closer, but are you sure that those are the only fighters you think deserve induction?

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 29 Apr 2006, 22:53

kidlefty wrote:
Mattyp151 wrote:Jake Lamotta
Joe Frazier

jcs83md wrote:Wow, being able to vote in a million people is monotonous.

Salvador Sanchez
Jake LaMotta
Joe Frazier
Carmen Basilioi
Bob Foster
Tony Canzoneri
Ike Williams
Wilfredo Gomez
Actually, the ballot is 25 max. Someone has to be on 75% of the ballots to get in, so I don't see more than 7 or 8 at the very most making it this round.

I have no problem with people submitting shorter ballots if they really feel like no one else is worthy of induction, but excessively short ones are a little more suspect. I can't assume that a ballot with just two names is not an official entry. jcs, you're a little closer, but are you sure that those are the only fighters you think deserve induction?

I'd enforece the 25 rule strictly. I'll complement mine

JC · Post by JC » 30 Apr 2006, 06:00

Lou Ambers
Carmine Basilio
Jack Britton
Newsboy Brown
Tony Canzoneri
Kid Cocolate
Billy Conn
Jack Dempsey (Non Pareil)
George Dixon
Johnny Dundee
Joe Frazier
Bob Foster
Kid Galvin
Emile Griffith
Fighting Harada
Harold Johnson
Jake Lamotta
Ted Kid Lewis
Sonny Liston
Freddie Mller
Ruben Olivares
Maxie Rosenbloom
John L Sullivan
(Barbados) Joe Walcott
Ike Williams